Re: (why is high high) (Pawel Kusmierek )

Subject: Re: (why is high high)
From:    Pawel Kusmierek  <pq(at)>
Date:    Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:01:23 +0200

From: tothl(at) Date sent: Mon, 31 Aug 98 15:43 MET To: pq(at) > >From tothl Mon Aug 31 15:42:59 +0200 1998 remote from > Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:42:59 +0200 (MET DST) > From: Toth Laszlo <tothl(at)> > X-Sender: tothl(at)csilla > To: Pawel Kusmierek <pq(at)> > Subject: Re: Why is high high? > In-Reply-To: <199808311137.NAA05385(at)> > Message-ID: <Pine.SV4.3.91.980831153509.4177A-100000(at)csilla> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Received: from by; Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:43 MET > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Content-Length: 714 > > On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Pawel Kusmierek wrote: > > > Other people who now other non-Indo-European languages or who > > has non-Indo-European-speaking friends: please contribute and tell > > us how are sounds described in Chinese, Japanese, Hungarian or > > any other language! > > > In Hungarian high frequencies are called "high", but the opposite is > "deep" instead of "low". > Thank you very much! Do you say "high frequency" and "deep frequency" or rather "high sound" and "deep sound" (or maybe "high pitch" and "deep pitch") in Hungarian. What I mean is whether the words high/deep are used to describe a physical measurable property of sound or a feeling of a listener. To be clear I'll try to explain why I stress this discrimination. I believe that the words that describe the frequency are same as those that are used for other quantities and that they were not used for description of sound pitch before concepts of frequency, hertz etc, were invented. I suppose that long before anyone had an idea of frequency, people were calling sound pitch in a way. In English, Polish etc. these 'primordial' names are in agreement with frequency values. Possibly, in other languages, these 'primordial' names have nothing to do with physical dimension, or with vertical dimension (by the way, 'deep' is to some extent a synonyme for 'low'), or they are reversed in comparison to Indo-European languages (and, consequently, they are in agreement with period values). Pawel Kusmierek ************************************* Pawel Kusmierek Department of Neurophysiology Nencki Institute of Experimental Biology 3, Pasteur St., 02-093 Warsaw, Poland tel. (48-22) 659 85 71 ex 379 or 388 fax (48-22) 822 53 42 E-mail pq(at) ICQ 11740175 Email to AUDITORY should now be sent to AUDITORY(at) LISTSERV commands should be sent to listserv(at) Information is available on the WEB at

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