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>From tothl Mon Nov 9 18:29:16 +0100 1998 remote from inf.u-szeged.hu Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:29:16 +0100 (MET) From: Toth Laszlo <tothl(at)inf.u-szeged.hu> X-Sender: tothl(at)csilla To: auditory(at)lists.mcgill.ca Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <Pine.SUN.3.95.981109104657.14326C-100000(at)hebb.psych.mcgill.ca> Message-ID: <Pine.SV4.3.91.981109175402.25391A-100000(at)csilla> MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from inf.u-szeged.hu by inf.u-szeged.hu; Mon, 9 Nov 1998 18:29 MET Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Length: 1880 On Mon, 9 Nov 1998, Al Bregman wrote: > If detection and classification of voiced vs. unvoiced segments plays a > central role in algorithmic speech recognition, and if this classification > is based on distinguishing the pitched vs. noisy parts of the signal, then > such algorithms wouldn't be able to understand whispered speech, which is > an easy task for humans. > I think that although studying extreme cases (whispered speech, noisy speech, interrupted speech, etc.) gives the most clues for understanding speech understanding, for ASR "normal" speech is just a big enough problem. Most of us would be glad if our speech recognizers did not work for whispered speech, but otherwise were very robust. Considering voicedness in ASR, you surely know that current speech recognizers totally throw away this info. In fact, they want to remove pitch, put they also remove the voiced/unvoiced decision. In HMM it would indeed cause problem in the case of whispered speech, but in our sytem it will (hopefully) simply reinforce a decision, but not punish in other cases. Considering human speech understanding, I think that voicedness is a very robust acoustic cue, and I'm sure that we use it. It's another issue that we can do without it. But I don't think, for example, that whispered communication worked wery well in high background noise. Meanwhile, the voiced/unvoiced cue is quite robust in this case. So, it maybe does not play a central role, but can be very helpful. I'd very glad to hear the opinion of others. i Laszlo Toth Hungarian Academy of Sciences * "Do it or don't do it. Research Group on Artificial Intelligence * Don't try it." e-mail: tothl(at)inf.u-szeged.hu * http://www.inf.u-szeged.hu/~tothl * /Yoda/ Email to AUDITORY should now be sent to AUDITORY(at)lists.mcgill.ca LISTSERV commands should be sent to listserv(at)lists.mcgill.ca Information is available on the WEB at http://www.mcgill.ca/cc/listserv

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